Hi Steve - I was camping next to a family last weekend - they had the ladder golf sets constructed the same way as your plans suggest except that instead of the stand - they had them pushed directly into the ground. Do you have any ideas on how the plans could be adjusted to accomodate this change. I was also wondering if there would have to be a stake of some sort attached to the bottom to push into the ground.
Post by Steve King (Admin) on Jul 29, 2005 9:47:45 GMT -6
Sure, sounds pretty simple to do. All that one would need to do is first, not make the base as the plans suggest, then, instead of making the lower 2 PVC vertical legs 10" each in length (see assembly plans above), one would make both of them 22 inches in length. Then, all that you have to do is make a pilot hole in the ground by using a metal rod (ie. horseshoe stake, rebar, etc.), broken broom stick, etc. and a hammer. Take the hammer and hit the rod/stick into the ground to about a 12" depth of a pilot hole. Then, all that you need to do is set your two 22" ladder legs into the ground first (sticking out 10"), then set the rest of your ladder on top of those 2 legs.
Now, one could modify some the 10" vertical bottom legs of the original ladder plans (without the base) by putting some sort of stake into them and sticking the stake into the ground, but the downfall of that my be just that, a downfall. The bottom line is that the legs need to be anchored, be it 12" + into the ground or by the base construction that the plans above show. Anything less would eventually topple the laddle when the bolas hit it multiple times. Sometimes taking short cuts can lead to other problems.
Post by Steve King (Admin) on Aug 10, 2005 10:05:59 GMT -6
If you freeze a titleist ball that has a liquid filled center before drilling, then this will diffuse the danger. Only use liquid filled center balls if drilling "all of the way through" the ball. Otherwise, when the ball thaws out, the liquid center will cause mayhem with your hot glue holding in your rope. I personally didn't use a liquid filled center with my bolas. I drilled half way through, then heated up my 3/16" nylon rope end to harden it. I then set that aside for it to cool (harden). I put some on glue in the hold that I drilled and immediately set my hardened end of the rope into the hot glued hole. After it cooled and set, I sunk a very small flat head screw through my rope into the ball at an angle until it was flush with the ball. The rope encompassed the screw so that it wasn't seen. This added the extra security that the ball wouldn't fly off due to glue degradation.
I am thinking of adding two more rungs across the lower portion of the rear support for scoring beads/washers. This would be similar to how you score snooker pool. This would make each ladder consist of three main sections: ( Base, Ladder, Support arms/scorecard. ) Union fittings will be used to join all sections securely when assembled.
Check the pictures in my post above, and let me know what you think about this new idea.
Post by Steve King (Admin) on Aug 11, 2005 21:37:38 GMT -6
Sounds like a good idea. It won't affect the normal play since it will be in the rear of the game. How do you plan on making the beads lock in place so they don't slide back out of the true scoring position? Where do you plan on finding beads that'll fit over PVC to slide? I know there are washers that have a large I.D. and this may work better, since you can knotch the PVC with grooves which will lock the washers in place by having the center I.D. hole set into a notch when slid over. Just my thoughts.
Steve, I really like that washer/notches idea. That would require only one washer per scoring rung. My ladder is 24" wide, which would allow plenty of room to space out, and visibly mark, and notch, the 21 scoring numbers. The next part of this plan, Is how to make a thin washer highly visible from 30' away. Right now, I am thinking of one washer that fits the pipe and notches. Then gluing/welding larger washers to the sides of it. That would make the 'profile' of the washer wider, allowing for wrapping it with colored electrical tape.
If anyone else has an idea about this, Please post it!
( Whoever purchased all the 1/2" PVC unions from Menard's in Marshfield, WI. Please stop it! )
Post by Steve King (Admin) on Aug 12, 2005 10:13:18 GMT -6
This is a very simple fix. Since you will have 2 ladders 30' apart, have each ladder have a left and a right side of notches with once washer each for those notches. Color the washer the same color as each of the bolas to distinguish which team is which. Anyway, if both ladders have the same set up of 2 sides of scoring (a left and a right), then all that one would have to do is move the washer on "BOTH" ends of the playing field when one scores. This would allow both teams to clearly see the current score without having to strain ones eyes.
I shall work on this next week. Going camping this weekend, and hope to put these ladders to much needed use. If I find anyone that loves this game as much as we do, I will direct them to this site. Thanks for taking the time to organize it. It's very appreciated!
I have incorporated a 'scoreboard' into the uprights of my ladders. I simply used my drill and drilled angled holes into the uprights (only through one side obviously) to hold golf tees. The holes are drilled the same size as the golf tees, so they don't get knocked out while playing. If you drill holes in both uprights, you can score on both ends while playing either singles or doubles. I also wrote the numbers 1 through 21 to the side of each hole using a permanent marker, for quick reference, and the bottom hole is for the starting point. This has worked out great for us......just thought you may want to know.....and it's quick and easy!! P.S. I'll be registering soon, but don't have time at the moment. GL88
Post by Steve King (Admin) on Sept 7, 2005 12:04:53 GMT -6
Sounds like a great idea! We'd love to see some pictures of your design. Question though, is it possible for the rope between the bolas could get hung up on the protruding golf tees, which inturn could not only possibly cause an error from landing on a specific rung, but also pull out the tee from the scoring position? I had recently devised a different (but somewhat similar) scoring procedure using O-rings, because I was afraid that the ropes would catch on anything protruding. See what I've done here:
Your idea looks like a great one as well, however, our ladders are glued together, so the golf tee scoring system seemed to be the best answer to our scoring problems. The tees do not stick out very far, and to my knowledge, the tees have never effected the ropes, as the scoring system is always facing the rear of the playing area. It has worked out very well for us, and should I ever have to construct new ladders, I think that I will just write the numbers on the backside of the uprights and put 3-4 o-rings on them prior to applying the glue. We have had A LOT of fun with our game! Thank you for your idea, that would be much easier to do, however I'm not about to cut the ladders apart, if you know what I mean!! Thanks again!! This is a great informational site!! GL88
Post by Steve King (Admin) on Sept 8, 2005 11:34:27 GMT -6
Ohhh, the scoring pins are in the back of the ladder. Great! That sounds like a good set up. Thanks for the compliment on the board too. I hoped that it would assist people in building, playing, etc. the 3 popular tossing games (ladder golf, washers & cornhole) with Ladder Golf being the main theme of the board since it's the hottest game around right now. Believe it or not, this board gets over half of its traffic from Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota. This game seems to be hot like fire up north from me here in Missouri. It's catching on slowly here though. I think it'll be a few more years before it catches on U.S. wide though.
Yes, seeing how we are most generally playing doubles, it is easy for us to keep track of the points on each end, so each player knows what the magic number is. I am from Iowa and we constructed our game about 2 years ago, and have used it many, many times. I am hoping to build a washer game, as soon as I find a good plan. Thanks again!! GL88
I am considering building a set of ladders for ladder golf and noticed that the hillbillygolf website has plans showing 10" between rungs and laddergolf.com states in its rules that rungs should be 13" apart. Which dimension is the more commonly accepted spacing? I plan to use the standard bolos with 13" of rope between balls.